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Post by Wally1 on Mar 28, 2008 9:31:32 GMT 10
Just read about the fellow trying to photo pumas in Kansas??
I have mentioned this before but check out
www. borderjag.org
website.
This is an account of a study into jaguars coming from Mexico re infesting country in Arizona and Utah, using a camera line of 30 cameras.
I have been corresponding with Jack Childs for many years and some of the tactics they use came from my suggestions.
In 10 years they have captured 10 jags, mostly repeats of the same jag.
Otherwise thousands of other critters. Some pumas, bears bobcats skunks raccoons and coati mundi, the desert coon. Also border hoppers, drug runners and nude bushwalkers.
The picture gallery is educational and entertaining, No BHs DRs or nude bushwalkers though.
Wally
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Post by Wally1 on Mar 28, 2008 9:36:05 GMT 10
Just read about the fellow trying to photo pumas in Kansas??
I have mentioned this before but check out
www. borderjag.org
website.
This is an account of a study into jaguars coming from Mexico re infesting country in Arizona and Utah, using a camera line of 30 cameras.
I have been corresponding with Jack Childs for many years and some of the tactics they use came from my suggestions.
In 10 years they have captured 10 jags, mostly repeats of the same jag.
Otherwise thousands of other critters. Some pumas, bears bobcats skunks raccoons and coati mundi, the desert coon. Also border hoppers, drug runners and nude bushwalkers.
The picture gallery is educational and entertaining, No BHs DRs or nude bushwalkers though.
Wally
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 11:04:21 GMT 10
we have a full quota of psychos on the banned list, keep this up and you will go around the twist. You are in the state where you just have to talk about your experience, I am a patient listener who can dispense wisdom accumulated during that into time on lifespan.... Goodonya Wally! Perhaps we may all have need of your psychiatric counsel: ;D Internet addiction is a psychiatric disorder
29 March 2008
IF YOU regularly fall into bed bleary-eyed after a night of online gaming, you may be suffering from a psychiatric disorder.
In the American Journal of Psychiatry (DOI: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2007.07101556), psychiatrist Jerald Block of Portland, Oregon, argues that internet addiction should be included in the next version of DSM, the US handbook of recognised psychiatric conditions, which is currently being drawn up. The condition is characterised by excessive use of the internet, anger or depression if computer access is lost, poor achievement and social isolation....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 18:48:35 GMT 10
we have a full quota of psychos on the banned list, keep this up and you will go around the twist. You are in the state where you just have to talk about your experience, I am a patient listener who can dispense wisdom accumulated during that into time on lifespan.... Goodonya Wally! Perhaps we may all have need of your psychiatric counsel: ;D Internet addiction is a psychiatric disorderHey waitup people. What’s all this I hear about psychiatry and going round the twist etc etc. We have a reportee here who has given us a detailed description of an event. OK so she reads a few strange books, drinks and smokes, stays up late at night, and she’s done a few things she hasn’t told her Mum about. Who hasn’t? Far be it from me to detail Wallys infamous exploits during his rabbit trapping days, or the “misspent youth” that another prominent contributor has occasionally alluded to after he’s had a couple of ales from the Grand Ridge Brewery.  “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” Does TC Girls background somehow mean that the events she described did not occur? Is there some logic here that escapes me? I’m upping the ante here. It’s now 2 slabs of Cascade Lager if anyone can provide positive proof that TC Girls testimony is a hoax. This is not to say that what she saw was definitely a Thylacoleo. Many aspects of her report fit the description, but we may never know whether there is a Thylacoleo up there, or a bush panther, or a or a blue mountains lion, or a triantewontigongalope, or a plain ordinary garden variety giant quoll until someone gets a decent photo or a lump of DNA. Bring on the autocams - go TC Girl!  |
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Post by mingle on Mar 28, 2008 19:45:32 GMT 10
I suggest that if this really is a "quest" to discover whether or not thylacoleo (or some similar creature) truly exists, some members should head on up there pronto, cameras at the ready and do some questing!
Looking at maps - and I'm taking TC Girl's story as true here - the two areas worth investigating are the Barrington Tops NP and/or the Wollemi NP. Obviously these are huge areas - I've been to the Barrington Tops myself and it's a pretty rugged and remote region.
Question is: is anyone game?
Cheers,
Mike.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2008 4:15:23 GMT 10
Goodonya Wally! Perhaps we may all have need of your psychiatric counsel: ;D Internet addiction is a psychiatric disorderHey waitup people. What’s all this I hear about psychiatry and going round the twist etc etc. We have a reportee here who has given us a detailed description of an event. OK so she reads a few strange books, drinks and smokes, stays up late at night, and she’s done a few things she hasn’t told her Mum about. Who hasn’t? “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” ..... Bring on the autocams - go TC Girl! I agree Plesio. Well spoken. I offer my sincere apols for being such a smart****.  I would have responded straightaway except ... I'm trying to cut back on the internet! ;D |
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Post by wally1 on Mar 29, 2008 7:57:30 GMT 10
I do not want to appear too critical and i support Tc Girl all the way.
However i do have a long memory and I remember some contributors making statements that attracted the kook class and the posts degenerated into vitriolic slanging matches which turned to personal abuse.
I do not want to offend, I am trying to sound a timely warning.
I dont want to see this happen again.
About all that can be said has been said and it now is a time for
practical investigation, the ol hands on.
Hopefully by the end of the year I can see my way clear to take an extended tour through N NSW and coax some of these critters out into view.
I have recently had communication from a lady in the Murray Mallee district of SA who had a sighting, I sent her a pic of the Bob Mac cat and she said that the cat she saw matched the BM cat, especially the long legs. Her cat snarled and coughed at her from within the scrub, possibly a mother wiith cubs.
Regs to all Wally
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2008 13:22:45 GMT 10
some members should head on up there pronto, cameras at the ready and do some questingOn ya Bike then Mingle..  Question is: is anyone game?I have been on the edges and in parts of both..too rugged.
Without fairly specific areas though its a waste of time.
Mike
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Post by youcantry on Mar 30, 2008 22:26:20 GMT 10
Hey waitup people. ... I’m upping the ante here. ... This is not to say that what she saw was definitely a Thylacoleo. Many aspects of her report fit the description, but we may never know whether there is a Thylacoleo up there, or a bush panther, or a or a blue mountains lion, or a triantewontigongalope, or a plain ordinary garden variety giant quoll until someone gets a decent photo or a lump of DNA. Bring on the autocams - go TC Girl! I'll second (or third) plesio on this one. Cut TC Girl some slack. I've only just read this thread from beginning to end tonight. When I read Kaz's comments about there being so many bizarre incidents in TC Girl's testimony I thought straight away - TC Girl's talking about a few odds and ends that she's noted over the years. It turned out that's exactly what TC Girl had to say a few posts later. Good on you for hanging in there and being willing to explain that. For what it's worth - I (think I) know the weird spooky feeling TC Girl is talking about - but I've never attributed it to some large predator stalking me; rather, just to my human mind playing tricks on me in an unfamiliar environment. To each their own, and good on us all for coming up with abundant theories to explain the experiences. To mingle - "is anyone game?" - yes. As per Mike though, it's a needle in a thousand haystacks. Regarding all the talk about cougars - only 10 photographed in 10 years, etc, etc; I asked my mate again just this weekend how many Tasmanian devils he's seen in the wild in Tasmania. His work leads him to drive through a fair amount of farmland - granted, mostly during the daytime (although conceivably at dawn and dusk) and granted, mostly not through prime devil habitat (although he notes there *are* devils there). About 1 a year on average. We're talking about 25,000 to 60,000 devils (depending whose reports you believe) and he sees just 1 a year in the wild. I've always applied this logic to the question of thylacines in Tasmania - if their population is just 250 animals or less - how often do you theorise that they should be sighted? (The human population is 500,000 - and far fewer would be able to go into the bush of their own accord; far fewer again would go into thylacine habitat, and far fewer again at a time of day when thylacines are active and the thylacine population is just 1 percent the size of the devil population ... at best!) - but the question applies equally well to big cats in remote bushland such as Wollemi or Barrington. How many do you need for a viable population? |
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Post by rodgey on Apr 8, 2008 15:55:16 GMT 10
A few thoughts.
Sematary is how its spelt in the book because children made the sign and they didn't spell it correctly.
My cat gives off a pungent odor when he's scared (going to the vet in the car) that can smell like cat urine but also not... it's a very hard smell to describe. "Burning wire" could be one way of describing it, though not spot on.
In regards to Wally's observations on inaudible sounds : A man at a crocodile park told the tourist group i was a part of an anecdote about a farmer who swam in a billabong. The man would get freaked out and have goose-bumps run up his spine.
He was later told this was how crocs communicated. It was telling him to push off, though it was hidden from view.
And most importantly..
TC Girl, you have inspired doubt in the readers of your tale because it is too well written. It comes off as a clever and creepy story. Personally I found it entertaining and spooky but the dialogue between the characters is contrived and typical for its genre.
This is why IMO the story loses some credibility. If you are "filling in the blanks" of true anecdotal stories with your own creative writing in order to make them more interesting or creepy you could mention that in the intro. I don't think anyone would mind.
I personally have written a half dozen creepy stories about the bush and outback and often use the "locals say" and the "old-timer recounting mysterious history" devices. I like it.
Good story.
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Post by youcantry on Apr 9, 2008 12:22:00 GMT 10
Hi Rodgey,
so if I told you that when I was a kid I remember the farmer from next door talking to my dad and older brother about the panthers that were released from the local wildlife park (after they went bust), then you'd say it was good creative writing because I used the device of saying that an old-timer local told me a story?
How else are you supposed to word it if that's what's happened?
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Post by Wally1 on Apr 10, 2008 0:17:06 GMT 10
I had a bigcat "under observation" for about 8 years.
In that time I saw her twice, yet checking up on her tracks and checking what she had been up to was almost a daily event
Most entertaining was tracking her up when she was chasing foxes,and the efforts of the fox to throw her off the trail and the cats circling around to pick up the scent again.
She trailed the fox by scent.
Sometimes the fox would run up to a bush and spin off to the side, the cat would go over the bush and had to search for the trail. If it was lucky the fox got into the cover of the scrub along the creek. Otherwise it ended up as a patch of fur on the ground.
I have written about Blackie in my web site, there is ever so much more that I could write about. this cat She ended up as cats meat when her own siblings took over her patch.
Wally
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Post by rodgey on Apr 10, 2008 18:06:52 GMT 10
Hi Rodgey, so if I told you that when I was a kid I remember the farmer from next door talking to my dad and older brother about the panthers that were released from the local wildlife park (after they went bust), then you'd say it was good creative writing because I used the device of saying that an old-timer local told me a story? How else are you supposed to word it if that's what's happened? Well you don't have to reword it, just be aware that an old person's yarn will come across as an old person's yarn, and therefore a fictionalized version of something they may or may not have been witness to. I admit that sometimes real life seems just like a story which is why I don't totally disbelieve TC Girl's account. I was really just pointing out that for complete believability one should try to write reports without embellishment, notes on "feelings" and second hand anecdotes. e.g. instead of "This old man said to me, 'Aye, be some strange goings on up yonder. Best stay away I reckon, youngin'!'" you could say: "A local interviewee reports seeing unknown animals in the vicinity of the hills. (Insert description here)." I will continue to have an open mind about TC's account unless a novel comes out "based on a true story". |
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