Awesome Reports

[Ravi]

Hi All

Thought you may be interested to read of the reports on this page (and it's related pages). In particular, this first report is freaky!! Check the picture!

www.uq.net.au/~zzpclach/bigcatwitnesses.htm

The first report is very recent and might be a good spot for those of y'all inclined to look!

Cheers

R

[Deleted]

thanks Ravi
Dennis will like that Daisy Hill sighting.
Very helpfull.

[wally1]

I have read the item in Paul's website.
The Maryborough district is well known for big cat and thylacoleo manifestations.
Once a big old black cat was often seen around Daisy Hill, he was virtually part of the scenery and did most of his predation in feed sheds.
in this case judging from the way the calf and cow were broken up it may have been a thylacoleo.
There has been so much evidence unobserved, such as was the meat bitten off with scalloped edges or sheared off.
Only an experienced observer could note things like this
but it would prove whether a cat or thylaco was involved.
Are the carcasses still in situ or were they confiscated by "Govt workers."
Were the carcasses skun to observe claw damage?
again this would indicate cat or thylaco.
We will wait for Dennises observation.
The fact that officialdom will not get involved proves irrevocally that none of them have been dropped on their heads lately. They want to keep their jobs.
Kind regards to all
Wally

[Deleted]

Daisy Hill is a real hot spot of sightings because it is between the Craigie State Forest and Paddy Ranges State Park, any wild life moving from one site to the other passes through Daisy Hill.
Years ago we owned a farm at Daisy Hill so I know the area well and have many friends still in the area, I have made some enquiries but have not yet confirmed who lost the cow but hope to check out the area again next week. The dead calf looks like a Hereford so that narrows it down to the small number of farmers who raise that breed in the area. ;D

[wally1]

Greetings
My sleuth has been unable to locate farmer in question but he did pass on news that 8 kid goats were killed at St Arnaud, a town to the N from Maryborough Vic.
Wally

[Deleted]

Hin wally can I have some more info on the 8 goats killed at st Arnaud?

[Wally1]

Hi
This news was mentioned to me by eiher Ballarat friend or nephew at Talbot, probably Talbot as he has connections in that district. I dont know any more.
Cheers Wally

[Wally1]

I have copied and digested the report on Paul Clacher's web site and learn that the cow was still alive but mutilated with broken front leg, twisted hip, and pinched nerve in back.
I guess the pinched nerve thing could amount to broken back or paralysis anyway.
Short of an autopsy this is a casual observation.
This mutilation is more than what I would expect from a cat, and I do not know if there were trees present but it looks to me that the cow was dropped on by a thylacoleo. Dennis's old mate is a mighty big animal.
I have asked Paul for more information but to date no reply.
If the bones of the calf were still available a lot could be learned from them.
Some months back a cow and calf were killed in that Cent Vic area, the only sign of injury was profuse bleeding from one eye socket of both the cow and calf. Unfortunately the eye was not removed to see what the injury consisted of. I suggested that a thylaco could have inserted its killing claw and penetrated the brain. However one thing noted was that the rest of the mob were terrified.

Regards to all Wally

[Wally1]

Regarding the St Arnaud goats some had missing heads , others had sundry mutilations. My friend asked the owner to contact him without delay if there was any further predation.
There has been none so far so the predation would indicate an initerant cat passing through rather than a resident cat.
He also mentioned that broken backs were common with predated kangaroos anad sheep.
I oncer autopsied a dead sheep that had been rape killed, laid on its back, laid on to hold it down and sucked dry of blood. it had been knocked down with a blow to the back, as claw marks and bruising showed.
It is not impossible that the cow had suffered in a similar manner and had been left alive for later predation.
Cheers Wally

[Deleted]

Have spoken with my contact at Parks Vic re Daisy Hill beast, they have no knowledge of recent attacks on livestock. Officially Parks and DPI don't believe in "panthers" etc. but many staff are just as curious as the rest of us and will continue to investigate "off the record". ;D

[Wally1]

The man reported matter to Mbo P@W, they were not interested, likewise another place.
Years ago when jack Higgins reported poisoning of a big cat S from Mbo he was told to get lost.
You will get nothing from P&W reg cats.
Cheers Wally

[big cat]

I agree wally What parks victoria say and its staff say is just covering up for thier laziness.

[A certain fellow]

**** DELETED - admin BC - I've worked with PV. I bet their field guys work a damn sight harder than you do.

I agree Wally! Foul language is NOT PERMITTED on the QfT Forum. First and Only warning. Debbie

[Wally1]

Suppression of information on the big cat thing has been Govt policy for over 20 years that I know of and this policy comes from a Federal level.
Govt employees in the wildlife buisness are under orders
to avoid conversation on the matter.
I certainly do not detract from the efforts of these people, they do what they are ordered to do.
Foul language does nothing for a persons credibility and certainly has no place on this forum.
Regards Wally

[Thylacoleo Gal]

I just modified that last post Wally. Agree 100%. 2 strikes = out.

Debbie

[meow]

Wally put your federal government conspiracy evidence on the net.Conservation is a state responsibility and parks victoria is 100% responsible for this big cat fiasco in their parks.Abuse from parks victorias supporters will not further their cause.

[Deleted]

OK, what big cat fiasco?

[brocken english]

what is a fiaso?

[Deleted]

I don't know what P&W in Melbourne do but their office in Maryborough will probably send you to me or the local paper.

I took an early morning trip to Daisy Hill but did not see the critter. I did find evidence of predation and collected a bone showing some very interesting marks, similar to those of Tc predation found on fossil bones. While not conclusive proof it does indicate that we may be closer than we have been for a little while. ;D

[Deleted]

brocken said:

what is a fiaso?

Real smartass aren't you? Almost think Mighty Mouse has moved to Sydney.

[mikebw]

Wally put your federal government conspiracy evidence on the net.
mmmm, do you mean a paper trail .?
Of course wally is not going to be able to do that,ergo, by that logic, there is no conspiracy at a federal level.
There does not have to be a conspiracy at federal level does there.??. ;D
The reality of the matter is different.
Inaction/inertia/dis-interest/no funds/ignorance/**** covering/paper shuffling/reports that are sat on are great examples of a "soft" conspiracy.
And this can be done at a state dept level.!

Abuse from parks victorias supporters will not further their cause.

I dont think it was a supporter of NP.It was just the usual crank .

MikeW

[wally1]

I have record where Commonwealth police have been involved in confiscations of evidence of bigcats.
The hackers responsible for wrecking thylacoleodotcom and also my web site were traced to Canberra.
Mail between myself and a friend in Cent Vic was intefered with, items were removed from parcels.
State police do not do this. I wrote a letter to myself and had it posted from that town. In it I hurled the most insulting insults that my cousin Dave, a specialist in insults, he worked on the telegraph counter at Elizabeth St for 10 years, could think up, at the people responsible for opening the mail. This letter had been opened in transit. The letter was crumpled and jammed back in the envelope.
When a person of my aquainntance in WA, who had collected big cat evidence for years complained that his bank safety box had been rifled, he was told that ASIO was involved and there was nothing he could do about it.
Not long ago I sent a tape to my friend JJ in Texas. All record of crypto stuff was erased and package stamped "delayed for custom inspection"
They didnt even reseal the box.
Don't worry the Feds are well involved and State organisations do what they are told to do.
Cheers Wally

[wally1]

Will this do for now or do you want me to make
quotes of further incidents, I have plenty more.
They have been on my back for longer than I care to remember, my collection and files were rifled 12 years ago, and material removed.
Cheers Wally.

[wally1]

Dennis, can my friend from Ballarat have a look at that bone please?.
Regs Wally

[Deleted]

No probs Wal, have him email me and give his 'phone No and I call him to set up a time. If he is not coming up this way I can arrange to take it with me when the wife forces me to take her shopping in Ballarat (usually happens once or twice a month). ;D

[Deleted]

Checked the area before dawn again today, can see why critter is hitting the farms. From his spot on the hill all you can see are farm animals, drought has forced out most of the native animals many have moved into town. Still very little growth despite this season's rain but it looks like it will improve by summer.

Found another calf taken and dragged into forest, but it was fairly old kill, no fresh sign.