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Post by Thylacoleo Gal on May 20, 2012 15:49:43 GMT 10
Thylacoleo still alive? Folks on the Tweed apparently think just maybe .. Marsupial lion 'stalks' Tweed Brad Ricks, May 20, 2012 www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2012/05/20/417195_gold-coast-lead-story.html Not everyone is prepared to dismiss the Tweed legend of a large flesh-eating marsupial lion stalking the dense hinterland near Tumbulgum, with a handful of locals convinced the beast is real. For years an urban myth about this ancient creature has circulated on the Tweed.
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Post by dennisw on May 20, 2012 23:00:53 GMT 10
There have been reports for years from further north in the Buderim area too; the animal commonly reported is usually called the "Queensland tiger cat" it is striped like a thylacine but has been seen to climb trees. I don't know of any reports of arboreal thylacines but the black "panther" commonly reported from further south has been seen climbing trees and it is possible that the two are related. A very old reported sighting of a Qld tiger cat claims that it was climbing down a tree, tail first like a koala and not head first like a possum.
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Post by youcantry on May 21, 2012 13:06:18 GMT 10
Dennis - thylacines were believed to be arboreal to a degree, and in particular females. Of course, the spotted-tailed quoll is fairly arboreal.
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Post by mingle on May 21, 2012 16:24:34 GMT 10
I wonder how many of these sighting are actually attributable to tree kangaroos?
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Post by youcantry on May 21, 2012 22:30:53 GMT 10
Fair question
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Post by dennisw on May 22, 2012 10:36:18 GMT 10
Are there any species of striped tree kangaroo?
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Post by greatdane on May 22, 2012 11:04:36 GMT 10
Dennis - thylacines were believed to be arboreal to a degree, and in particular females. Of course, the spotted-tailed quoll is fairly arboreal. Nah.. I think the evidence for this is rather slim - at best. And Thylacines simply lack the tools: sharp claws and/or grasping "fingers".
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Post by mingle on May 22, 2012 11:38:50 GMT 10
Are there any species of striped tree kangaroo? Well, sort of... And their head/face is very wombat-like (a feature often noted in the 'tiger' sightings...)
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Post by youcantry on May 22, 2012 14:06:20 GMT 10
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Post by Isengard on May 23, 2012 0:59:59 GMT 10
Whether its the answer or not that is one adorable looking creature! I guess someone will now tell me that it smells awful, bites and damages crops or something!
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Post by Isengard on May 23, 2012 1:01:27 GMT 10
I don't pretend to be an expert on marsupial nomenclature but Carnifex is Latin for executioner not murderer, that much I can say! So Thylacoleo Carnifex is a horrible amalgam of Latin and Greek meaning I assume Pouched Lion Executioner. It's a clumsy form of words why not all Greek like the thylacine? That's the classicist in me talking.
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Post by dennisw on May 23, 2012 10:18:06 GMT 10
Whether its the answer or not that is one adorable looking creature! I guess someone will now tell me that it smells awful, bites and damages crops or something! Tree kangaroos are ok they tend to stick to the forests, probably because of the trees.
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Post by molloch on May 23, 2012 10:28:59 GMT 10
These are all photos of the New Guinea species of tree kangaroo (Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo). Which are the ones kept in zoos and sanctuaries in Australia. The two Australian species are: Bennet's Tree Kangaroo and Lumholtz Tree Kangaroo Both of which are restricted to far North Queensland. In the Pleistocene, there were tree kangaroos on the Nullarbor Plain, but it is very unlikely that there were trees there.
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Post by Thylacoleo Gal on May 23, 2012 22:20:27 GMT 10
I don't pretend to be an expert on marsupial nomenclature but Carnifex is Latin for executioner not murderer, that much I can say! So Thylacoleo Carnifex is a horrible amalgam of Latin and Greek meaning I assume Pouched Lion Executioner. It's a clumsy form of words why not all Greek like the thylacine? That's the classicist in me talking. Hats off to the most learned Isengard, a scholar of the Classics! Was it Owen who named T. carnifex? Surprising he wasn't derided for such clumsiness by his enemies - who were numerous. Huxley would have been the man for the job: he hated Owen with a passion.
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Post by cabbageweevil on May 25, 2012 1:22:09 GMT 10
(By the way -- gorgeous tree-kangaroo pics. I want one for a pet !)
A probably not very enlightening post; but, will hark back a bit to one that I made on 1/5/12 on the "Thylacoleo alive in the 1940s?" thread. Said post involved the tropical forests in the far north of Queensland. I see from the atlas (I'm in the UK, and my Australian geography is somewhat spotty) that the Tweed is in the very far south of the state.
Anyway; there was a chap who posted copiously for a while, on another "crypto-related" board which I frequent. He claimed to be living the simple life in the back of beyond in far-north Queensland. Going by a good deal of what he posted, his connected-ness with planet Earth as it actually is, seemed at times dubious; but he was totally convinced, beyond any shadow of doubt, that real purely-flesh-and-blood thylacoleos and thylacines were alive and well in Queensland's tropical-forest fastnesses as at around 2008/09, at any rate. He'd never seen any, but he'd heard many accounts, to which he gave total credence.
He cited an anecdote about, I think, loggers in those forests, who had shot and killed a thylacoleo -- if I remember rightly, this was in very recent decades. The carcass mysteriously vanished -- it's amazing how often that seems to happen on this scene: it's a situation in which cryptozoologists never, ever seem to catch a lucky break. However strongly one wants to believe, this is a matter where it's almost impossible not to think, occasionally, "something here doesn't smell quite right".
I wish I could dig out the material about this reported killing. Unfortunately (long story) I'm not in a position to access the archives of the board concerned, which contain that material.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2012 8:55:45 GMT 10
I can assure the good people who are interested that thylacoleo is alive and well and can be found virtually throughout Australia. I collected my first report about 20 years ago, of a lady living in the Grampians Ranges in Cent W Vic. She heard her dog yodelling so went to investigate. This strange critter was lapping the dog around the back yard, said lady grabbed a lump of firewoood and joined the fray. She clobbered the animal which turned on her. sat up on its rear end, opened its mouth in a wide gape and hissed loudly. She was hazy about describing the animal but could describe its teeth perfectly. It was a TC. I have collected other similar stories, and there have been numerous sightings in Central Victoria especially around Maryborough where a family lives or lived. The country also has its population of giant feral cats. I have collected reports of TC from most Aust States. and traced footprints near Maryborough. Bushcat
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Post by molloch on May 26, 2012 12:00:37 GMT 10
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Post by Isengard on May 26, 2012 19:22:54 GMT 10
I don't pretend to be an expert on marsupial nomenclature but Carnifex is Latin for executioner not murderer, that much I can say! So Thylacoleo Carnifex is a horrible amalgam of Latin and Greek meaning I assume Pouched Lion Executioner. It's a clumsy form of words why not all Greek like the thylacine? That's the classicist in me talking. Hats off to the most learned Isengard, a scholar of the Classics! Was it Owen who named T. carnifex? Surprising he wasn't derided for such clumsiness by his enemies - who were numerous. Huxley would have been the man for the job: he hated Owen with a passion. In taxonomy it seems somehow ok to mix Latin and Greek, even though a passing knowledge of both languages will tell you that they are not really very similar. Once they let television (Greek for far or a long distance and Latin for seeing) it seems to be ok! To be quite honest it makes no practical difference, most people don't speak either language with any facility so it's purely an aesthetic point. You're right though, you'd think that someone with enemies on an academic level might get attacked for that, it's the kind of petty angle you could pick at.
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Post by mingle on May 26, 2012 19:37:36 GMT 10
That shot of the Bennet's is very panther-like and the distinct tuft on the tip of the tail also matches some sightings (from memory).
Although I suspect that once they're on the ground they probably don't look all that much like a big cat!
Cheers,
Mike.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2012 21:14:37 GMT 10
Hi all,
Came across your site the last few days. Quite interesting some of the sightings that have occurred.
I'm not sure if you've come across this YouTube posting? I stumbled on it recently.
Don't judge just because it is around Nimbin! I lived in northern nsw for a few years for uni and there's a lot of unexplored area around Mount Warning. Plus there has been numerous sightings as above (the tweed is only a footstep away). Plus the lady seems genuine enough...
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Post by Thylacoleo Gal on May 29, 2012 22:49:16 GMT 10
Welcome aboard Intrigued! Thanks for pointing out that vid - it's not one I had seen before. It does sound like a fairly "shop standard" big cat or maybe even Thylacoleo sighting. Especially in view of the stripes. I don't know what to make of these sightings, really. I've been collecting reports for years, which is why thylacoleo.com exists.
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Post by Thylacoleo Gal on Jun 2, 2012 10:09:21 GMT 10
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Post by rayharvey271 on Jun 2, 2012 17:54:34 GMT 10
heres an animal with faint stripes.does anyone agree. Attachments:
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Post by lurcherman on Jun 2, 2012 22:05:11 GMT 10
Looks like brindling Ray, very close to the camera.
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Post by youcantry on Jun 5, 2012 12:52:06 GMT 10
Nice pic, Ray.
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Post by rayharvey271 on Jun 5, 2012 17:20:36 GMT 10
that photo was taken in the daisy hill area qld. my cams have got over 2 hundred thousand pics and a thousand avi. since i put them there .removing most of them to another hot spot.
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Post by dennisw on Jun 6, 2012 9:59:57 GMT 10
Very interesting pic, how high up was the camera and can we deduce the size of the critter from that?
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Post by rayharvey271 on Jun 7, 2012 20:13:33 GMT 10
the cam is 3 foot off the ground and i say that animal is 4 to 6 feet from the cam.
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Post by rayharvey271 on Jun 7, 2012 20:16:57 GMT 10
it will b the size of a rigdeback
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Post by dennisw on Jun 7, 2012 23:10:14 GMT 10
That rules out several species, not a cow or a horse or small like a possum or rabbit. That leaves medium herbivores such as goat or deer (not sheep that would be obvious) and the colour is strange for either of these; it is not scruffy like a wild pig and the coat looks preened as it would be in a large cat or marsupial carnivore. Not proof but an interesting pic all the same. Were there any tracks in the area?
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