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Post by Ian Thomas on Mar 4, 2021 12:22:46 GMT 10
Some little known history. Of interest to Denny? ✡️
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Post by dennisw on Mar 5, 2021 8:51:55 GMT 10
Thanks Ian, it is interesting much of which I knew. The gentleman referred to as Charles Dye was actually Charles Dyte and many features around Ballarat today bear his name, e.g. Dyte's Falls. Henry Harris became the first president of the Ballarat Hebrew Congregation of which I am a current member and plan to be at the Ballarat Synagogue at 10:30 tomorrow morning. I know most of the story, my Mother's maiden name was Harris, the synagogue even had a Rabbi Harris at one time. The Synagogue has a website ballaratsynagogue.org/Attachments:
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Post by dennisw on Mar 6, 2021 19:16:36 GMT 10
A great Sabbath at Ballarat which not only included the weekly Parsha but also a celebration of the 160th anniversary if the consecration of the Synagogue. A celebration which I continued at home with a few extra cups of Kiddush. (A small libation.
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Post by Ian Thomas on Mar 7, 2021 9:56:36 GMT 10
A question comes to mind. And with apols if I tread upon sensitive ground here. Just curious. I've had as little exposure to Christianity as of I have had of Judaism - but the history interests me. So, the "Flavian Hypothesis" is an intriguing take on the origins of Christianity. If true, it must have had an impact on the development of rabbinical Judaism. Even though, as we know, the trauma of the Temple's destruction still resonates with Jews today: actually, it's the decisive event in Judaism, I think? Would a learned Jew say that the Flavian Emperors' efforts to turn Christianity into a passivist belief-system amenable to orderly governance, likewise shows up in post-Temple Judaistic thought/practice? ie Are there tenets in rabbinical scripture, as distinct from the Torah/Old Testament, that are equivalent to the New Testament's instructions to "Turn the other cheek", "Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's", and so on?
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Post by johannes on Mar 17, 2021 3:38:21 GMT 10
Fascinating stuff, thank You for linking it, Ian. Tiberius Alexander certainly has a lot to answer for, the whole political system of the principate was rigged to prevent alexandrines frme becoming emperors, or even senators, and still, T. Alexander became an emperor-maker. As far as F. Josephus is concerned, well (or rather cave) of Jotapata situations still exist today: all the members of a maoist cult commit suicide, only the leader survives miraculously, is the heir of all his dead comrades and becomes a green backbencher . However, the sheer mass of information leads to a few questions: If Tiberius Alexander was the mastermind of the whole narrative, why did he depict his Herodian/Idumaean in-laws in such a negative light? And what to do whith those sources that describe Christians in pre-Flavian days, i.E. during the age of Nero? And are the sources on Jesus really that much sparser than on other contemporary middle-eastern mystics, like the suspiciously Celtic sounding T(h)eudas? www.karwansaraypublishers.com/awblog/a-chat-with-jona-lendering-on-the-jewish-roman-wars/
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Post by dennisw on Mar 17, 2021 10:06:26 GMT 10
The Jewish writings urge us not to escalate but to protect and avoid. If battle is unavoidable we are urged not to fear because with the help of the Almighty we will prevail, it seems to have worked so far, turning the other cheek is showing weakness. The old teaching about an eye for an eye is more about balance and justice, if one causes the loss of an eye he should be punished in greater measure.
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