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Post by jorgs01 on May 1, 2020 14:05:26 GMT 10
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Post by Ian Thomas on May 1, 2020 22:43:31 GMT 10
The legend just doesn't want to lie down and die, does it?
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Post by dennisw on May 2, 2020 11:07:38 GMT 10
Very hard to deny when you have been face to face or even just had a good look from a bit of a distance, most people get a big fright and run away I go after them and still sometimes regret not plugging the one I had a chance to bag all those years ago. It would have put the story to rest and nobody would be telling me I could not have seen it, had I known then what I know now I would have shot it but it was so unusual and not at all what I expected I felt it was rare and worth preserving but I now think there is a reasonable breeding population. I have heard of several being shot but people are using .22 rifles and not a decent automatic because they are banned. Shooting with a .22 simply gives the animal time to run away and die slowly over several days. People need to use shotguns and learn how to make cut shells (Google it if you don't know it).
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Post by Ian Thomas on May 3, 2020 7:59:31 GMT 10
There's two things always bothered me about Australia's Big Cat Legend. 1/ Bushfires. As everyone knows, Australia averages a humongous bushfire every 10 - 15 years or thereabouts. (No need to go into the reasons why .. misguided Green ideolgy etc) The unhappy fact is we do. Bushfires drive larger, mobile native animals out of cover - hence you see droves of kangaroos fleeing the fire front. No one ever sees a big cat or Thylacoleo roaming around charcoaled post-fire landscapes. 2/ There's actually more evidence for UFOs 🛸 than there is for the existence of big-cats/Thylacoleos "out there". With literally everyone in possession of camera-equipped mobile phones and the availability of cheap trail-cams these days, you'd expect pictures of Thylacoleos et al to come flooding in. Yet there's nothing. How to explain the discrepancy?
* For the record, I'm not promoting UFOlogy. Just pointing out the awkward parallels with the Big Cat Legend.
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Post by dennisw on May 3, 2020 10:33:39 GMT 10
I agree about the UFOs even the US Navy has officially released the previously leaked images. I did hear a claim years ago about firefighters in NSW claiming to have seen a big black cat fleeing a fire but as they always do it was keeping to cover and getting away they were too busy trying to stop the fire to do anything but get a quick glance. I don't think these things run in blind panic like kangaroos or herd animals, they still maintain the elusive traits even when escaping.
They have no real fear of anything in the bush and can terrify dogs but they can also escape through the tree tops as witnessed by a bus load of tourists in the Grampians. They are predominantly nocturnal and there is an awful lot of land out there with no people in it.
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Post by vincewlb on May 3, 2020 18:58:02 GMT 10
There's two things always bothered me about Australia's Big Cat Legend. 1/ Bushfires. As everyone knows, Australia averages a humongous bushfire every 10 - 15 years or thereabouts. (No need to go into the reasons why .. misguided Green ideolgy etc) The unhappy fact is we do. Bushfires drive larger, mobile native animals out of cover - hence you see droves of kangaroos fleeing the fire front. No one ever sees a big cat or Thylacoleo roaming around charcoaled post-fire landscapes. 2/ There's actually more evidence for UFOs 🛸 than there is for the existence of big-cats/Thylacoleos "out there". With literally everyone in possession of camera-equipped mobile phones and the availability of cheap trail-cams these days, you'd expect pictures of Thylacoleos et al to come flooding in. Yet there's nothing. There are actually quite a lot of videos/pictures of big cats/possible Thylacoleos, some of them have a silhouette consistent with the marsupial, others more consistent with it being a black leopard.. This wouldn't explain why we never gets reports of spotted leopard though.. As for bushfires, if these animals (talking about Thylacines too) can stay ahead of humans then i have no doubt they could stay far ahead of bushfires as well, predators have very developed senses. |
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Post by lurcherman on May 16, 2020 6:26:09 GMT 10
I agree about the UFOs even the US Navy has officially released the previously leaked images. I did hear a claim years ago about firefighters in NSW claiming to have seen a big black cat fleeing a fire but as they always do it was keeping to cover and getting away they were too busy trying to stop the fire to do anything but get a quick glance. I don't think these things run in blind panic like kangaroos or herd animals, they still maintain the elusive traits even when escaping. They have no real fear of anything in the bush and can terrify dogs but they can also escape through the tree tops as witnessed by a bus load of tourists in the Grampians. They are predominantly nocturnal and there is an awful lot of land out there with no people in it. Apologies for going off at a tangent but should anyone require a report and startling explanation of the US navy sightings here it is: www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28231/multiple-f-a-18-pilots-disclose-recent-ufos-encounters-new-radar-tech-key-in-detection |
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Post by vincent on May 17, 2020 4:30:53 GMT 10
I suspect that most of us already believe that "something" is out there. Question is, what?
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Post by Ian Thomas on May 19, 2020 22:10:09 GMT 10
Well, if we're going to take UFOs seriously, meaning we concede they're a real phenomenon, then we have to apply the rules of logic rigorously. Do said rules lead inevitably to aliens? 👽 No. Not necessarily.
One thing we can say for sure is, if UFOs are real then they are clearly not physical, material objects. How come? Several reasons, all physics based.
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Post by vincent on May 21, 2020 2:31:47 GMT 10
Good TED talk. That guy is very reasonable. I like that he proposes that his camera network be crowdfunded; that takes the burden off the tax payers.
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Post by lurcherman on May 25, 2020 1:54:14 GMT 10
If they are piloted by biological entities of any sort then they must be equipped with state of the art inertia dampers.
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Post by Ian Thomas on May 25, 2020 12:47:28 GMT 10
Exactly right! What's more, they don't appear to leave any disturbance in their wake, even though they travel through air at many times sound-speed. The Utah Drone Footage, analysed: I seem to recall the object's estimated speed was about 4000mph(!!). Couple of points. 1/ If there is a pilot on board, he (it?) seems not the least bit concerned about all the obstacles whilst flying a ground-hugging course at that speed. Note the power pylons nearby. 2/ The craft(?) passes close by the drone, yet there's not the slightest indication of disturbance. Where's the sonic shock-wave? Note the compression/rarefaction effects on air and water when a jet aircraft cracks ~330m/sec ..
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Post by lurcherman on Feb 22, 2021 18:15:13 GMT 10
Well, if we're going to take UFOs seriously, meaning we concede they're a real phenomenon, then we have to apply the rules of logic rigorously. Do said rules lead inevitably to aliens? 👽 No. Not necessarily.
One thing we can say for sure is, if UFOs are real then they are clearly not physical, material objects. How come? Several reasons, all physics based.
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Post by dennisw on Feb 23, 2021 10:38:01 GMT 10
Before we jump to conclusions about physical limitations I like to remember Mach's Principle, we really don't know anything. We are basing things on our own frame of reference and there really are no frames of reference.
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