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Post by seth24 on Jul 3, 2012 14:14:35 GMT 10
and the picture from the text. ;D Attachments:
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Post by Isengard on Jul 17, 2012 7:21:58 GMT 10
Seriously if anyone captured a live thylacine in a humane way nowadays, treatedit well and so on does anyone think they would be prosecuted? I'd be amazed. That law was to stop trapping by farmers, hunters, collectors surely. Even if you were done for it I'll bet the amount of cash you would reap from rediscovering the species would be far greater. All I mean is that it is hugely unlikely to put anyone off trying to trap a live thylacine in a sensible and safe manner.
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Post by youcantry on Jul 17, 2012 16:31:23 GMT 10
Except I believe you're not allowed to profit from criminal activity, that would include media payouts if you were prosecuted in relation to capturing the tiger. I think.
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Post by mingle on Jul 17, 2012 18:07:47 GMT 10
I believe the thylacine was "fully protected" prior to its extinctiong
Actually, has the thylacine been officially declared "extinct"?
If so, and at some time in the future, one is captured or killed, does the old status of "fully protected" come back into play?
Mike.
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Post by dennisw on Jul 17, 2012 23:38:56 GMT 10
The thylacine is unusual in that it is listed as both "endangered" and therefore protected and also listed as extinct. I don't know of any other animals that are on both lists but there are no doubt some.
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Post by Surroundx on Jul 19, 2012 18:21:31 GMT 10
Actually, has the thylacine been officially declared "extinct"? The thylacine was declared extinct in 1986, 50 years after "Benjamin" died. That was the general criteria for declaring a species extinct (or extinct in the wild): no sighting in the wild for 50 years. But of course that is not always an accurate gauge of extinction so it has been replaced by other methods more recently. There was a postage stamp to commemorate the event also. I'll see if I can upload a picture of the stamp from my collection.
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Post by Thylacoleo Gal on Jul 20, 2012 6:53:08 GMT 10
I found this article, dated 13 August 1945, which states that "Permission to capture a pair of Tasmanian tigers for breeding is likely to be granted to David Fleay, of Victoria, the man who first bred the platypus" .. I'd say that would be a reference to Fleay's Tasmanian expedition in the 1940s. He most certainly would have needed a permit to collect a specimen. His objective was specifically to locate and if possible capture a breeding pair. Unsuccessful, unfortunately. As an aside, this is the reason why we can dismiss the urban legend of Thylacines having been introduced into Victoria circa 1910. First MacKenzie and then Fleay were on the lookout for Thylacines since, I think, the 1920s - 1930s. These fellows would surely have known of any such releases. So would Guiler who interviewed Thylacine "old timers" in Tasmania, while a few of them were still alive: no old timer ever mentioned any stories of alleged releases near Portland or Wilson's Prom. The world of Tasmanian Thylacine hunters in the 19-teens was a small one, shrinking almost to non-existence in the 1920s. Word of any such large scale capture and transportation to the mainland would certainly have circulated among men engaged in the trade. The legend is implausible in the extreme. As far as I can tell, the story originated sometime after the 1970s: it appears to be a deliberate fabrication for some unknown reason. Perhaps a hoax.
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Post by Isengard on Jul 20, 2012 9:07:11 GMT 10
I still think that the authorities would be hard-pressed to prosecute someone who say caught a thylacine in a cage of some sort, cared for it and treated it well. The publicity and media attention would be huge, it could easily be argued that this person was doing the right thing by proving the continued existence of the species. Someone deliberately killing one on the other hand...
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Post by youcantry on Jul 25, 2012 13:14:46 GMT 10
TG, maybe not a hoax - I mean there *was* an acclimatisation society that released other Tasmanian fauna into Wilson's Prom. Maybe it was just speculation and/or wishful thinking which then got quoted out of context as an allegation or fact?
Isengard - I know one person who had a talking to by the Tasmanian police for having traps set for thylacines. I believe they never went back to reclaim the traps (2 traps, I think) and says for all they know there could be a thylacine skeleton in them today.
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Post by Isengard on Jul 26, 2012 20:14:16 GMT 10
Fascinating that Chris, is it the intention to trap a thylacine that they objected to or someone throwing out traps in their patch and potentially trapping all sorts of wildlife?
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